Evidently the pastor doesn't even know what grace actually is. I'm sorry for what your children endured. Right now I'm having the opposite problem as far as church stuff. People are worried about the parish and we need to do outreach. Okay, so I have several ideas that I'm willing to take responsibility for. Nobody wants them, they talk down to me like I'm stupid. Then they keep bitching that nobody is doing outreach. I've given up. The one woman is going to kill the parish by throwing out everyone's ideas.